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Episode #116: 'Detecting Hydrogen Gas to Extend Transformer Health' with Bill Whitehead and Leon White of H2scan [an Energy Central Power Perspectives™ Podcast]

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Hydrogen has become a buzzword in the energy sector recently, but many in the utility sector may not have realized how critical hydrogen gas has been for the power grid for decades. Rather than being a matter of producing hydrogen as an energy source, though, the key use case has been monitoring the generation of byproduct hydrogen gas by power transformers and using that as a way to monitor health and status of these critical grid assets.

In today's environment of supply chain challenges for major grid equipment and a renewed focus on the safety and security of utility assets, staying on top of the most modern version of the sensors needed to detect hydrogen gas has become more important than ever before. And that's why today's conversation with two of H2scan's key leaders is so timely. Bill Whitehead, International Accounts Director, and Leon White, VP of Transformer Sales & Business Development, join today's episode to provide the education on this critical topic to those for whom it's flown under the radar and to advance the conversation to the latest and greatest capabilities of hydrogen sensors for transformers moving forward. Listen in as Bill and Leon share with podcast host Jason Price and producer Matt Chester what they need to know, teasing out the first in a three-part series highlighting this essential technology.

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Jason Price: 

Welcome to the Energy Central Power Perspectives Podcast, the show that brings leading minds from the energy industry to discuss the challenges and trends that are transforming and modernizing our energy system. A quick thank you to H2scan, our sponsor of today's show. Now, let's talk energy.

I am Jason Price, Energy Central Podcast host and director with West Monroe, coming to you from New York City. With me as always, from Orlando, Florida, is Energy Central producer and community manager, Matt Chester.

Matt, today we're joined by two guests working in a niche area of the power sector that is likely overlooked by the broader audience. The area we're discussing is hydrogen sensing for power transformers. Matt, for the non-grid engineers in the room, what have you dug up about this topic and market potential?

 

Matt Chester: 

Sure, Jason. Again, today we're talking about hydrogen, but not in terms of the hydrogen energy economy. Instead, we're going to be hearing about the ways in which hydrogen gas has reared its head for the power sector for years and the ways in which we can detect and use that type of sensing for the betterment of the utilities. Specifically, hydrogen gas may develop over the lifetime of a power transformer as the way that that highlights that transformer's relative age, health and status. Given our utility community these days are seeing multi-year waits between placing orders and receiving new transformers, any information we can get on transformer health and proactive steps that can be taken to improve and elongate that lifetime has really become a necessity.

 

Jason Price: 

Yeah, that's a great background, Matt. I really appreciate it. Clearly, this is an important aspect to grid operation. As we continue to electrify and add more load to the grid, we are in essence adding more weight for the grid to support. We're joined today by two key professionals from H2scan Corporation. First, we have Leon White, who's the company's VP of transformer sales and business development.

Leon, welcome to the podcast.

 

Leon White: 

Thank you, Jason. We're happy to be here.

 

Jason Price: 

Also joining us is Leon's colleague, Bill Whitehead, H2can's international accounts director.

Bill, welcome to the Power Perspectives Podcast as well.

 

Bill Whitehead: 

Great. Thanks, Jason and Matt. Glad to be here.

 

Jason Price: 

Gentlemen, welcome to the show and let's get started. Let's start with the basics. You're dealing with hydrogen, but let's just be clear we're not talking about hydrogen in the form of gas as it is as an energy source, but rather hydrogen detection in power transformers as Matt had given us a background on. Give us the basics of why this is important. How about if you start with a little of the science? Leon, do you want to start with this?

 

Leon White: 

Sure. Thank you. Most transformers, larger transformers and small transformers, whether they're on a pole near your house or in the front yard or in a substation, most are filled with mineral oil. When transformers get sick and things start happening inside the transformer, temperatures inside can reach usually 150 degrees C or hotter. When you start seeing those temperatures, the oil starts degrading and starts generating hydrogen and other combustible gases. Those are bad things to have in your transformer. Sometimes, it's due to a short-term issue. Sometimes, those things can generate a little bit of hydrogen, but by monitoring the hydrogen in real time, you can get an idea for the real-time health of the transformer. If you're continuously generating the gas, that indicates that there's an active fault in the transformer, and your transformer could be heading to failure.

 

Jason Price: 

Bill, anything to add to that?

 

Bill Whitehead: 

I guess, the science, the term is called pyrolysis, and basically it's the breakdown of insulating liquid into hydrogen gas. What happens is, basically, you have higher temperatures with the hydrocarbons that breaks into smaller molecules. The science is temperature to the mineral oil causes the breakdown of that material into gases.

 

Jason Price: 

Let's just go into the natural process a little bit more because now we're going into the physics and chemistry of what's going on here. So H2, hydrogen, is produced inside a liquid-filled transformer under abnormal conditions, and your technology monitors for any indication of that. This is really both an asset management and a safety play. Is this correct? Maybe, Leon, you want to start?

 

Leon White: 

Sure. From an asset management standpoint, as you indicated earlier, transformers have gotten more expensive in recent years, doubling in price in just the last few years, and lead times on many transformers today are two to three years, and so that's increasing the criticality of the existing transformer fleets since you want to take care of the assets you have and hopefully not have to replace them.

From a safety standpoint, historically, utilities will take oil samples on large transformers once a year and, if they see an issue, they will send people out to take more samples. They might move to quarterly or monthly sampling and so, effectively, what you're doing is you've got a concern with your transformer and you're potentially putting somebody in harm's way because, if that transformer fails while somebody is there, it's typically not a good thing to happen.

With online monitoring, again, you're looking at the realtime health of the unit and communicating that data back remotely, so not only are you protecting your employees from being around equipment that may have issues, but you're also protecting the public and protecting your resources by looking at the online data to see if there's a problem and, if there's a problem, look at changing out the transformer or doing maintenance on the transformer on a scheduled basis versus waiting for the transformer to fail and then you have a fire drill of everybody running around trying to figure out where's the spare and what do we need to do to get this thing back in service and all that kind of thing.

It's always better to do things on a scheduled basis versus a unscheduled basis, and not only are you looking at the safety of your employees and protecting your assets, you're also looking at the public safety and so forth because a small percentage of transformer failures actually do catastrophically, and those are the ones that make the news, and those are the things you definitely want to avoid.

 

Jason Price: 

Bill, when we had the chance to chat before this episode, you mentioned that this area has been on a multi-decade journey. Can you give us some insight into that and how it's shaping your business today and, more importantly, what are the common ways to address monitoring today and why would something of such importance not be required?

 

Bill Whitehead: 

Yeah. No. I'll tell you it's been a long journey here. Many, many years ago, when a transformer is looked at, basically, these manual oil samples were taken almost like taking a blood test on a person, send it to a lab and you do an analysis to determine if everything is okay or not. Same thing for transformers, a long time ago, you'd take a manual sample, you sent it to a lab, you would identify the combustible gases that are present in the oil, and you decide is if everything's okay or not, and then, from there, the next thing that happened was hydrogen-sensing technology was developed so that you can actually put a sensor on a transformer and do real-time monitoring of the hydrogen.

This was very important at the time because what it did was it allowed for some type of an alarm trigger or something to happen, and it would cue up the maintenance team to go out there and perform another manual sample before the normal annual cycle, let's say, and then, from there, if we move forward a little bit sooner, maybe in the 2000s, all of a sudden, the multi-gas sensors were developed and created. These were needed for critical transformers at the time, but there was a big marketing push to put multi-gas sensors on pretty much all large transformers. Even though it sounds like a great idea, what ended up happening was that these monitors required heavy maintenance and never really lasted that long.

Transformer's life expectancy is at about 40 years, and these multi-gas monitors really only lasted for about 10 with pretty heavy maintenance after five years. A big lesson was learned over time, and so now people are stepping back and saying why don't we get back to the basics again and just look at monitoring maybe a key gas in these transformers and then, when it's the right time in the life of that transformer, then maybe it makes sense to put a multi-gas sensor on there?

Then now let's fast-forward in the last, let's say, five years. I call it the disruptor situation scenario where the GRIDSCAN 5000 was developed, hydrogen-specific, 10-plus years of life expectancy with continuous accurate information that can be installed on a single valve practically anywhere in a transformer.

What's changed over this multi-decade journey was life lessons of online BGA systems, the true life expectancies of these and the maintenance costs, and then all of a sudden the disruptor came out which said, hey, let's solve a problem with long life expectancy from a hydrogen-sensing technology that can be deployed pretty much on any size transformer because of its low price point.

Leon, I'll share as well that, today, most of the time, when you put a sensing technology on a brand-new transformer, you really don't need something so sophisticated. You need something simple and then, as maybe 10, 15, 20 years go by, all of a sudden, you might see some symptoms that justify using the multi-gas sensor.

 

Jason Price: 

Yeah, I can imagine these being busy times for you. Before we continue on to the next question, Leon, was there anything you wanted to add to Bill's response?

 

Leon White: 

Yes. Thank you. About 20 years ago, around 2001, as Bill indicated, the industry came out with multi-gas monitors, and so these monitor mostly the gases that you see on your lab analysis when you send an oil sample to the lab. Most of the marketing in the industry has indicated to customers that you've got to have multi-gas, you've got to have multi-gas, and so everywhere around the world we go, we hear that you've got to have a multi-gas monitor, and we've really lost the discussion about hydrogen because all the marketing has really pushed the multi-gas agenda.

As Bill indicated, there are transformers you absolutely want multi-gas monitors on, your large critical transformers, your generator transformers, SIC transformers, but for the rest of your fleet, in general, utility see about a one to 2% failure rate of their power transformers. With the expensive multi-gas monitors, it's difficult to apply those to a large number of transformers, so if you got a fleet of a thousand transformers and you're going to put multi-gas monitors on 20 of them a year, you'll never get there. Whereas with hydrogen monitors, you can put those on.

The beauty of, as Bill indicated, our technology, solid state technology that lasts 10-plus years with no maintenance is people put it on and they don't have to worry about it. They see that the monitors identify an issue and when an issue is present. Otherwise, the transformer owner doesn't have to worry about maintaining the monitor more than they're maintaining the transformer.

 

Bill Whitehead: 

Do you know what's really interesting, Leon? As we've been doing this for a long time, we went from selling the single-gas units that made a lot of sense for sure, and then we started selling multi-gas systems in the right places for the right reasons, and then it seems like we're coming back to H2scan and we're getting back to keep it simple with the single-gas monitors, and it's really resonating with everybody around the world, which is amazing. I think the challenge was, until the GRIDSCAN 5000, the only single-gas monitor out there was a composite gas unit, and you couldn't tell the difference between hydrogen or carbon monoxide and, with that, people really didn't a hundred percent trust those composite sensors. Now, with our GRIDSCAN 5000, I think it's really changed the game.

 

Jason Price: 

I'm curious how this is being addressed around the world. For example, what are the Europeans doing to maintain transformer uptime and safety? Furthermore, I saw an exhibit at DISTRIBUTECH in San Diego on the Ukrainian grid. Is there a risk that transforms can be weaponized?

 

Leon White: 

Okay. Well, you got a lot in that question there, but we'll start with what's going on in Europe, elsewhere around the world, and then we'll talk about what people are doing to protect their transformers from a physical element. In Europe, as the world knows right now, there's a lot of stuff going on. In Ukraine, a lot of the grid is being targeted, and the world is coming together to help Ukraine keep their grid intact and keep the lights on, and so that's a challenge for them.

Also, about 40% of the natural gas has been cut from Russia to the rest of Europe, and that's causing utilities wanting to move people from natural gas heat to electric heat, which is putting further stress on the grid, and then also, with the environmental proactive electric vehicles and so forth rollout, those things are all coming together to put additional stress on the grid. The distribution utilities in Europe are actually starting to enact online monitoring requirements for distribution assets, including transformers, and so they're looking at voltage, current, temperature.

We're working with some of the companies over there to install hydrogen sensors on critical transformers as well, so things that people don't think about. They think about their electric car, how great it is, they can plug it in, charge it in 28 minutes, and you don't really think about how much power is consumed when that happens, a lot of current and the 40-year-old grid that charging station is connected to. You're looking at potentially overloading a lot of transformers, definitely putting loads on the transformers that they weren't designed to take, and so utilities are starting to realize that monitoring those assets in real time is becoming more and more important.

There's been a lot of talk about the distribution grid being used in ways that it was never designed for. You've got distributed generation with solar and wind generation connected to distribution and load flows that, again, it was never designed for. All these things are coming together to make people realize that monitoring those assets is becoming not only more necessary, but there's also technologies like automated meter reading and other distribution automation, communication systems and so forth that utilities are putting in that are allowing the technologies like our GRIDSCAN 5000 to be installed on remote transformers and get the data back and be able to make decisions on those remote transformers that they never had a vision into the real-time health of those assets in the past.

We're seeing that in Europe and other places of the world. They've been really growing a ton of their electrical system. There's a lot of growth in China right now, and they're doing all kinds of things, including things like monitoring high-voltage bushings using our sensors that most bushings don't have a tap that you can do that with, but that's an application that is very popular in China right now. They're not only monitoring the main tank or the low tap changer in the transformer, but also monitoring the hydrogen in the oil that's in the bushing, and so we're seeing all kinds of interesting things around the world.

As far as the protection of transformers, bill and I were at a conference last week, and there was a paper concerning ballistics protection of transformers. These are special coatings that you can put on transformers to protect them from certain caliber of bullets and so forth. There's been a lot in the news recently about somebody taking shots at the transformers at Duke and, prior to that, there were similar incidences in California and other places, and so it's really highlighting the criticality of transformers and, especially today, if you have a number of transformer failures in the same location, it may be difficult to get the lights back up. All these things are coming together. The beauty is that technology is allowing disruptive technology like ours to enable things that has never been possible in the past.

Bill, do you have anything to add to that?

 

Bill Whitehead: 

Yeah. That was very interesting. I'll actually start at the back. Can you weaponize transformers? I think, basically, back in 2006, the NERC CIP was born, North American Electric Reliability Corporation. They called it the critical infrastructure protection and, basically, it was recognized way back, awhile back that the electrical grid infrastructure was vulnerable to terroristic attacks and were very vulnerable. Just like Leon mentioned, I mean, there's UL ballistic ratings now for transformers. These remote transformers use resin type bushings as opposed to liquid-filled bushings so that, if it did take a ballistic, it wouldn't just catastrophically fail, also, high walls being built around remote transformers so you don't have a clear shot at the transformers.

I think, when we say weaponized transformers, I guess, when we're saying weaponized, taking a transformer out of service. I think that's recognized around the world. There's a lot of things happening to protect or try to help prevent those things from happening.

Leon mentioned a lot of things happening around the world. There's a lot of standards out there on how to monitor or to analyze the condition of a transformer based off the liquid concentration of the different hydrocarbon gases that are formed. A lot of those things are coming to the front. Sea Grey right now is really pushing on how to make a decision on which type of online DGA, or dissolved gas analysis, system should you have on different size transformers. All of that is happening right now. I think what's happening around the world is that everyone's recognizing the importance of gas monitoring on transformers.

I think there's some other questions we have here coming up. It talks about what's changed in the trends in markets that we'll talk about to reemphasize about extreme weather events and overloading and increased harmonics due to the electric vehicles and renewable energy. There's a lot of things happening in our world that's really pushing the importance for hydrogen monitoring of transformers.

 

Jason Price: 

That's excellent. Of course, the energy sector is undergoing vast changes that go well beyond these sensors and transformers. I'm wondering if you can talk to how those big picture changes in the power industry trickle down to your area of focus? As utilities seek to decarbonize as grid liability continues to take center stage, as new concerns like cybersecurity and supply chain shortages grab headlines, does that impact what H2scan does or can do with the technology?

Bill, why don't we start with you?

 

Bill Whitehead: 

Yeah. No. Absolutely. The big picture changes, we mentioned some of them before. I guess I'll put them in some groupings of these big trend changes that are happening around us today. One is we're noticing extreme weather event changes happening across the planet. It's really impacting when you turn the heater on or when you turn the AC on. Those things are changing. The climate is changing for that. System fault, it's really interesting, because we're adding renewables, we're shutting down fossil power plants, we're adding solar wind, we're adding EV, what's happening is we're getting electricity going in different directions that we haven't seen before in the history of our power grid. What's happening is sometimes we have system faults that occur that weren't there before, and so we're mitigating those risks, but those things are actually causing some negative effects on these transformers.

Emergency overloading is starting to happen. If the sun is not shining or the wind is not blowing, all of a sudden, now you're having to push power a little bit harder through maybe a transformer or a location that it didn't expect and then it increased harmonics. What I mean by that is we have a lot more switch-mode power supplies happening out there because of electric vehicles and solar rays or solar panels in the house. These harmonics that never existed down there are there. These harmonics, actually what they do is they cause heating effects in these distribution transformers.

Again, that's never been seen before. A lot of these things are happening at the moment, and so, with all these effects, when we used to look at the life expectancy of a transformer, you maybe are looking at 40 years. What's happening was these new events are actually decreasing those life expectancies of these transformers. Maybe they're 30, 35 years, and so it's becoming super important with our technology just to monitor the hydrogen health so that, if you're having these overloading conditions or you're having some type of harmonic events, you really want to know if the transformer is seeing the negative effects of what's happening to it.

In the past, you would monitor maybe the current and temperature of those transformers. Well, current and temperature may be fine in that transformer, but it's only when hydrogen is being produced when you know there's a negative scenario happening. As we continue to improve on our technology, it's just going to get better for customers out there. We're looking at miniaturizing our hydrogen-sensing technology, and so as we get it to a point where we can get it smaller, less expensive, it becomes easier to deploy across a fleet of transformers.

 

Jason Price: 

Let's look ahead. What comes next? What are your customers looking for and asking regarding this technology? What's the vision for the next five years in this space, and what can you tease out that will get our listeners particularly excited for things to come?

 

Leon White: 

Right. We have lot of things that we're working on. Just this last year, we've pretty much doubled the size of our engineering staff, lots of new applications. We have sensors that work in a lot of environments, but there's always other applications that we're asked for that we don't have the sensors for those specific applications.

In general, everybody's looking for smaller, lower power sensors. There's a big push in the utility industry for IoT type devices, so to be able to put a sensor on a transformer, say, at a wind farm that has 200 transformers, but may not necessarily... It's kind of funny. You've got 600 volts or 34 KV at a pad-mounted transformer at a wind farm, but you don't have 120 volts to run a sensor. Those challenges people to want to have a low cost solution for, say, a small solar panel on the monitor and communicate the data back daily over an IoT system.

Those are the exciting things we're working with customers on. The sensors we have today will work, but there's always enhancements and smaller, lower power, lower cost sensors that are really needed in the industry. Those are the things we're working on, as well as a variety of different applications from fuel cells to electrolyzers. There's utilities that are in the process right now of installing hydrogen generation, and so not only are you concerned about hydrogen leaks and monitoring for those leaks in that situation. There's other applications like most electric substations around the world have lead acid batteries, the battery backup for the substation. When those batteries charge, which is continuously, it generates hydrogen. There's been incidences of large utility scale battery storage systems. There was one in Arizona where a battery failed, and a firefighter went to open the door, the whole place blew up and sent four people to the hospital, so monitoring for hydrogen in those applications is becoming more and more popular.

 

Jason Price: 

I appreciate you both for taking and turning an important and complicated and challenging topic into something that's understandable and relatable both for me and Matt, but also for audience, so much appreciated, and sharing your insight and wisdom in this area. We now are going to pause and pivot to what we call our lightning round. We are going to give you the last word, but we first want to learn a little bit more about both of you, the person rather than the professional. We have what's called our lightning round where we ask you a series of questions, and you hold your answer to one word or phrase.

We'll start with you Leon and then followed by Bill. Gentlemen, are you ready?

 

Leon White: 

Yep.

 

Bill Whitehead: 

Yeah.

 

Jason Price: 

All right. Let's do it. All right. Leon and then Bill, your go-to snack at the movies?

 

Leon White: 

Popcorn.

 

Bill Whitehead: 

Same, popcorn.

 

Jason Price: 

If you were granted a superpower, what would it be?

 

Leon White: 

Fly.

 

Bill Whitehead: 

Time travel.

 

Jason Price: 

Favorite way to spend a day off?

 

Leon White: 

Family.

 

Bill Whitehead: 

Hiking in nature.

 

Jason Price: 

Who is your role model or who has had the biggest influence on your career?

 

Leon White: 

That's a tough one. My first thought was Bill because he trained me on hydrogen monitoring, but I'm going to go with Brian Sparling who taught me a lot more about transformers.

 

Bill Whitehead: 

For me, it's between Elon Musk and Simon Sinek as a role model. I think there's very interesting philosophies both those guys have. I'll tell you, it's amazing because, as far as my career, it's also Brian Sparling, and me and Leon did not talk before that. That was definitely one of the biggest influences in my career as well.

 

Jason Price: 

Lastly, what are you most driven by?

 

Leon White: 

I always try to do the right thing and use common sense in everything I do. People try to over-complicate things, and I want to boil it down, and so hydrogen for me is going back to basic transformers. It's a common-sense approach and, in my mind, it's definitely doing the right thing

 

Bill Whitehead: 

In mine, I'll put simplicity and factual data.

 

Jason Price: 

Well, fantastic to both of you. Thanks for letting us tap into a little bit more about who you are, and thanks for being great sports about this. Like I said, I'm going to give you the final word, so we'll start with Bill. What's the message you hope our listeners take away from today's conversation?

 

Bill Whitehead: 

Yeah. Well, first thanks, Jason and Matt. I really appreciate this opportunity. I guess maybe the biggest importance or the message I'd like to get across is hydrogen-sensing technology in transformers is super important and that, hydrogen gas, it really is a way to ensure reliability and safety on transformers. As we evolve, as the world evolves around us, I think it becomes more and more clear that some basic, simple hydrogen-sensing technologies can really make a difference with managing transformer fleets.

 

Leon White: 

I don't have much to add to that. The only thing I would like to add is, if people are interested in learning more and analyzing their situations, I wanted to let everybody know that we are available and more than happy to work with folks to help them improve their transformer reliability programs.

 

Jason Price: 

Oh, no doubt, the Energy Central community will be actively following up with questions. We certainly encourage them to hop on the channel to post their questions. In the meantime, Bill and Leon, I once again want to thank you for sharing your insight with us on today's episode of the podcast.

 

Leon White: 

Thank you.

 

Bill Whitehead: 

Thank you.

 

Jason Price: 

We also want to give a shout out of thanks to the podcast sponsor that made today's episode possible. Thanks to H2scan. H2scan Corporation specializes in the design, development and manufacturer of industrially hardened hydrogen sensors. The company was founded in 2002, based in Valencia, California. H2scan's products are used in various utility industrial applications including power transformer, health analysis, substation battery room safety and process gas streaming monitoring. The sensors and analyzers are designed to provide accurate and reliable measurements of hydrogen concentration levels for 10-plus years without requiring calibration. H2scan's technology is based on advanced material science, and the company is committed to providing innovation solutions to help customers improve their process and operations.

Once again, I'm your host, Jason Price. Plug in and stay fully charged in the discussion by hopping into the community at energycentral.com, and we'll see you next time at the Energy Central Power Perspectives Podcast.

 

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