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Articles on the cost of upgrading the US T&D network for renewables?

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Guys

I'm looking for any articles or discussions on the cost of upgrading the US distribution network - or any general discussion on this topic.  I'm doing some research on NWAs and generally looking for some stats that talk to what this may be (or may not be) a big impact to the economy in the future.

Thanks, will keep searching!

Chris.

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In response to my own question, I have realized that my real questions was related to Distribution System Planning. 

A few good documents exist by this one was the most useful and has a number of references that are also useful incase anyone is intrested.

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Matt Chester on Apr 13, 2020

Thanks for coming back and providing the insights that you found most useful-- some great resources throughout this Q&A!

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Chris Law on Apr 10, 2020

Thanks, Charles.  These links are excellent!  Thank-you.

Hi Chris:

There is no accurate estimate that I have seen, but there are processes, and I can provide links to some my earlier papers and point you to some future papers that I will post in the next few weeks that might help you understand these. Note that I tend to focus on my home state (California) with these, but the processes should be similar elsewhere in the U.S.

Let's start with the transmission network. About a year and a half ago, I posted a six part series on the California Independent System Operator (CAISO). Part 2 of this, section 3.1 described the CAISO Planning Process. There is a link below to this part.

However, California coordinates with the Western Electricity Coordinating Council (WECC) and the other states therein in their planning process. Furthermore there is a related process called Reliability Coordination, and the entity responsible for this is the Reliability Coordinator. CAISO recently took over this responsibility for most of WECC. I will need to send you through two links for this. The first is part 6 of the CAISO series, section 4. The transition to CAISO as the Security Coordinator was in process when I wrote this series, so I wrote a later update, which is the second link below (read it after the section 4).

https://www.energycentral.com/c/pip/california-independent-system-operator-part-6-%E2%80%93-expansion

https://www.energycentral.com/c/iu/caiso-part-6a-%E2%80%93-expansion-update

Now distribution: There is also a process that relates to the distribution system, called resource adequacy. There is a link below to a paper on this and other related subjects.

https://www.energycentral.com/c/pip/california-resource-adequacy-procedures-community-choice-aggregators-and-direct

Although the above processes are specific to California, I expect they will be in the future for much of the U.S.

Also there that many choices and many constraints when upgrading distribution systems. PG&E is currently restructuring, and one of the steps they are taking to mitigate the impacts of Public Safety Power Shutoffs is to implement a large number of microgrids in their service area. I'm starting a two-part post next week on their reorganization, and part 1 (to be psted next Tuesday) will cover these microgrids (among other subjects).

-John

 

 

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Chris Law on Apr 9, 2020

Great John, very interesting indeed.  As a secondary note I will be interested to read you Microgrid topics - we have a lot of work happening here in Australia on that front - so keen to read about this in the context of say PG&E and particularly what it may mean for Distribution management as a result.

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John Benson on Apr 13, 2020

Hi Chris:

When I worked for Landis & Gyr and then Siemens (Siemens acquired my division from L&G and now its the Power TG Division) we had a few customers in Australia, mainly HECT. I believe they originally bought their EMS system around 1990, and when I retired from Siemens (2013) they were talking to them about a major upgrade.

I'll send you through one more link. This is my list of all papers, and I just updated it. One section in this list is Renewables & Microgrids, each paper has a brief description with a link to the paper in Energy Central. Be sure to read the list's Intro - the list is linked from the index.

https://energycentral.com/c/pip/list-papers-posted-energy-central-subjec...

Also, I'm posting a paper in on PG&E tomorrow morning. I don't know if you have heard about the PG&E Bankruptcy, but they are starting to emerge from this. One of solutions they are implementing to improve their service is a series of more than 20 microgrids. I write on PG&E frequently - look under "Western Grid" in the list. I'm also working on a second paper for early May that drills into these microgrids.

-John

I’m not much of D person, I spent my career on the T side but friends have told me one of the biggest challenges going forward on the D side with the proliferation of VER/DER is protection. Check the NERC, EPRI and ESIG sites, there may be some good insight into issues.

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Chris Law on Apr 8, 2020

Thanks John.  No harm being from the T side of "the force" :). Thanks for those suggestions I have started to check them out.

 

I'm not aware of recent private research reports (a lot of the specific D-level details tend to be redacted from utility PUC filings), but this was a US Department of Energy focus a few years ago.  You've probably already stumbled across them, but the EIA and DOE released reports in 2018; it's been years since I've been deep into the files, but I'd imagine that much of the raw data is from FERC Form 1 and EIA 861.  The table at the bottom of the EIA post is particularly interesting for the 20,000 ft evidence of correlation between CapEx and Customer Expentiture with DER resource/penetration maps.   

 

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Chris Law on Apr 6, 2020

Thanks for this, very useful.  I had not seen that table but yes was useful thanks.

I assume you've seen the most recent Wires report, but on the off chance you haven't, here's a link to it. 

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Peter Key on Apr 6, 2020

Oops, that's transmission, not distribution.

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Chris Law on Apr 6, 2020

Thanks for this, was interesting either way so thanks!

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