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Climate Change Fascism

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Vice President, Marketing (Retired) / Executive Director (Retired) / President (Retired), Columbia Gas Distribution Companies / American Gas Cooling Center / Fire to Ice, Inc.

Industry Participation: Natural Gas Industry Research, Development and Demonstration Initiative Chair, Cooling Committee (1996-1999)   American Gas Association Marketing Section...

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  • Nov 29, 2022

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1: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control


Elements of fascism have reared their ugly heads in the US response to climate change including autocratic government, economic regimentation and forceable suppression of opposition.

Examples of autocratic federal government actions include: ordering an end to coal-fired electric generation by 2030; ordering an end to natural gas-fired generation by 2035; ordering an end to fossil fuel combustion by 2050; terminating oil and gas leasing and revoking oil and gas production permits; ordering half of vehicles sold to be EVs by 2030; and, ordering all new vehicles sold to be EVs by 2035.

Ending coal and natural gas generation will shutter numerous generators which have not yet reached the ends of their useful lives, destroy the primary market for bituminous coal and a major market for natural gas, terminate the employment of numerous powerplant workers, coal miners and oil and gas field workers and strand $ trillions of coal and natural gas reserves. The federal government is effectively expropriating the property of the power plant and coal mine owners, likely with no compensation for their losses. Shuttering the coal and natural gas generating stations will also remove the primary sources of the power required to compensate for the intermittency of wind and solar generation.

Terminating oil and gas leasing and operating permits will cause oil and gas availability to decline as existing producing wells are depleted. The federal government has made no obvious provisions to assure that oil and gas supplies will remain sufficient to meet demand as supplies are depleted.

The federal government and several state governments have mandated a transition from ICE vehicles to EVs. Manufacturers are being forced to transition their product lines to EVs until all new vehicles sold must be EVs. Purchasers will face declining vehicle choices, higher vehicle prices, reduced vehicle utility and expensive battery replacement. This transition is being forced in the face of unresolved issues with spontaneous battery fires in personal vehicles, light duty trucks and transit buses. Owners retaining ICE vehicles will be faced with challenges regarding fuel and maintenance availability.

The federal government is also coordinating with the broadcast and print media and with internet social media organizations to suppress skepticism regarding the government’s climate change initiatives. The various media organizations are employing “fact checkers” to suggest that information from skeptical sources is labeled as disinformation or misinformation. The federal government has also acted against numerous climate scientists who question the government’s narrative regarding the future dangers of climate change. These scientists’ employers have been periodically harassed by senators and congressmen. Some scientists have been removed from state and federal government positions for refusing to support the government narrative.   

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Julian Silk on Nov 29, 2022

There is plenty of evidence to support climate change.  It is possible to feel for the coal and gas industries and still want to do something, and to impose mandates to do it.  The same argument could be made against mandates regarding vaccination against COVID-19, and there are over 100,000 dead people, with more still dying, to argue against them.

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Ed Reid on Nov 30, 2022

Yes, there is plenty of evidence to support climate change. There is no evidence that CO2 is responsible for climate change, though that is the consensus hypothesis. There is no evidence that climate change is a crisis, or an existential threat. There is no more need to end fossil fuel use in the US than there is in China, India, Indonesia, South Korea or many nations in Africa. There is certainly no justification for shutting down debate, stifling skeptical research and effectively "blackballing" skeptical scientists.

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Julian Silk on Dec 1, 2022

I am a Columbia guy, and happen to like this as a response to Ed Reid:

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Julian Silk on Dec 2, 2022

This is biased and ignores that CO2 concentrations diminish with height in the atmosphere. 

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Roger Arnold on Dec 5, 2022

I don't think there's anything wrong with the graph per se. Ed simply doesn't understand what it means. It means essentially nothing. "Radiative forcing" is not a matter of outgoing radiation from the earth at a given temperature (what the graph depicts). It's a matter of the apparent radiative equivalent temperature of the sky, seen from the earth's surface. CO2, and other greenhouse gases, serve as what one might call "radiative insulation" -- like an extra blanket one might put on the bed to keep warm on a cold night. You and the bed will still lose the same amount of heat to the cold room around you. That's whatever your body metabolism is producing. But the temperature under the covers will be higher. It takes a higher temperature delta between the space under the blankets (where your body is) and the room in order to dissipate the heat your body is generating. In the case of the earth, it takes a higher average surface temperature to release the heat from incoming solar radiation back to space through the more insulating atmosphere.

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David Berger on Dec 1, 2022

A fascinating read about energy options. Very anxious to see part 4.

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Thank Ed for the Post!
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