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"Over the last decade, energy experts repeatedly assured policymakers around the world that increasing the use of renewables, while shutting down nuclear plants, would make energy supplies more secure, while lowering prices. To make their case, experts pointed to radical declines in the price of solar panels, wind turbines, natural gas, and lithium batteries.

But those reassurances have come into question as natural gas prices have spiked around the world, resulting in street protests and contributing to inflation. 'The sudden slowdown in wind-driven electricity production off the coast of the U.K. in recent weeks whipsawed through regional energy markets,' reported the Wall Street Journal yesterday. 'Gas and coal-fired electricity plants were called in to make up the shortfall from wind.'

The crisis has shaken policymaker confidence in the rosy pronouncements by renewables advocates. High natural gas prices 'took a lot of people by surprise,' a senior energy economist at a leading analytics firm told the Wall Street Journal. 'If this were to happen in winter when we’ve got significantly higher demand, then that presents a real issue for system stability.'"

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Peter Farley on Sep 15, 2021

Skyrocketing NG prices assist all competing technologies even coal. However, in the long run the cheapest technology will win and that is solar, wind and storage it can also be built far quicker than nuclear so by the time the nuclear plant is operating the opportunity will have disappeared.

An interesting new development is occuring with batteries at run of the river hydro, which turn relatively inflexible hydro plants into 0-200% generators thus allowing more wind and solar to be employed

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Bob Meinetz on Sep 15, 2021

"the cheapest technology will win and that is solar, wind and storage..."

No, it isn't, Peter. Say it as many times as you like, but there isn't a grid in the world that runs on solar, wind, and storage. Not in the biggest state, or tiniest village. There's a reason for that: it would be exorbitantly expensive and still be unreliable.

Renewables + storage? It's a fantasy.

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Matt Chester on Sep 15, 2021

An interesting new development is occuring with batteries at run of the river hydro

This seems like it would have been an obvious pairing-- why is this a new development? Is it just a matter of battery prices finally coming down enough to effectively deploy? 

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Jim Stack on Sep 17, 2021

Not all the utilities seem to agree. In Arizona SRP  is investing billions in some NG peaker plants. It makes no sense but they are not regulated so we will have to put up with it. I am glad i own lots of solar PPA systems and can get paid even more for my power as their prices rise. 

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Bob Meinetz on Sep 20, 2021

Jim, elsewhere you claim you generate 120% of your own electricity.

That, of course, is impossible. If 100% is all of your own electricity, it's impossible to generate more than all of it.

And you don't generate even 100% if you're still connected to Arizona SRP - you're still using electricity from polluting gas plants.
Do you even know what your carbon footprint is?

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