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It seem that clean energy has began its journey towards phasing out the dirty Nuclear Power

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  • Aug 31, 2020

What seem to have been common knowledge for many in the renewable sector now dawns on America's hitherto happy Nuclear Power proponents. This article from Los Angeles Time says it all. No need for more than a summary of its content: 

1) The cost of storage of spent Nuclear Fuel seem to escalate and escalate. 

2) We are discussing costs which are such high so that it is accounted for, not anymore in millions of USD, but in billions.

3) The cost of storing it, was largely miscalculated "back then". Well - we knew there was a fish smelling here...

4) The renewable sector with its super low cost of heat energy (USD 55 per kiloWatt heat effect) competes with a factor of 129 with the USD 7,100 per kiloWatt of produced effect from the nuclear power plants. 

5) It appears that the original calculations for the centralized energy sources "conveniently" "forgot" transmission loss, distribution loss, conversion loss. This "convenience" now bites the American Citizens directly in their wallets. 

Here the article: 


It is from 2019, and just piles more pressure on the closure and decommissioning of Nuclear Power as a dirty old technology. 

We, who are proponents of clean energy should on the other hand take a good grab on our own shoulders and ask ourselves, if the Photo Voltaic panels - without any way of reusing them - is that clean? 

There are many other problems to solve, than just getting rid of Nuclear Power. For instance, building standards in USA are fatally terribly substandard. We see it everywhere - from the East-Coast after Katrina - where the pap-maché houses built there were torn away by the then hurricane; to the West-Cost - California, where the strong wild-fires leaves nothing but ashes, dish-washers, car-skeletons and washing machines standing. The Pap-maché walls there, combust like the paper it is. 

We therefore need, as a part of a proper utilization of our energy resources, to get USA back on its feet and build proper housing and not this rubbish made of paper, and sold for millions (!) of USD per house! 

It is very easy to build a house which can withstand wildfires. It just takes that it is made of stones and metal. A massive concrete building structure or stone building structure, with metal scotts in front of the windows, can withstand anything. ANY wildfire will ignite what ever combustible is there, and the temperature at the house shell can easily reach both 400, 500 and 600 °C. However, the fire does not burn forever, and after a few hours, in a particular location, the fire is over, and temperatures will fall again, leaving the properly built houses standing. 

Inside such houses the temperature can raise to both 60, 70 or even 80 degrees, but will not ignite anything inside, as long as doors and windows are of metal, and that proper scotts are put in front of these. 

And why is this relevant for clean energy? Due to the purpose! Our purpose with clean energy cannot be reduced to isolatedly considering the production. We MUST also consider the context in which we consume way too much energy on for instance A/C's. 

Those houses built by Pap-maché, (pressed and corrugated and shaped paper pulp) are in no way insulating properly. A house built in stones, with proper insulation and proper roof structure (segregated from the house by air or insulation, ie. soil or perlite or Rockwool), will not need any A/C. It is even possible to create a "cool storage" under the house, from where "cool" can be pulled from, just in the same way as we pull heat in the winter. This will cost a mere 1/3 of the cost of direct A/C. 

And - if the house is built well, this makes the entire meaning of clean energy that much meaningful - as we will then be using the clean energy in a clean fashion.

Well, prayers goes to California during the Wild Fire catastrophe, and to the East Coast, where hurricanes are getting stronger and stronger, while we are still slaughtering trees (which by their very existence cools the atmosphere due to evaporation), and still pumping out millions of tonnes of CO2. 


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David T. Svarrer


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David Svarrer on Aug 30, 2020

Sorry. East Coast for Katrina... :-) :-)

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Michael Keller on Sep 1, 2020

Nuclear waste disposal is, by law, the responsibility of the U.S. government. Unsurprisingly, the issue is AFU.

The folks at Deep Isolation have solved the problem using horizontal drilling methods developed by private industry. The waste would be placed miles underground with no risk to people or the environment. 

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Bob Meinetz on Aug 31, 2020

More fearmongering, as the Nuclear Renaissance gains momentum, was expected.

Here, we're led to believe Maine's nuclear waste is being stored on a wide desert expanse somewhere...behind the plant?. Funny, I don't recall there was a desert in Maine...

Nevermind, I see it was a cheap guilt-by-assocation shot of nuclear waste stored (properly, and safely) in underground canisters, in the Idaho desert, in the 1950s, at a government laboratory.

David, the "dirty old technology" you describe is the cleanest in history - with a waste footprint several orders of magnitude smaller than coal...or solar.

Solar? You bet. Take this plot, multiply it by 1,000, and you would have a rough approximation of the amount of land required to dump the 9 square miles of solar panels at Topaz Solar farm when they don't work anymore. Currently, they're taken to a landfill where they will gradually decompose, as the toxic cadmium inside sinks down to the water table over the next century or two, irretrievably poisoning it.

Maybe there are stories in the Los Angeles Times about scary nuclear waste because they help sell newspapers - and solar panels. But the fact you're aware of nuclear waste is a positive - it shows nuclear professionals don't dump their waste irresponsibly in a landfill somewhere, and pretend it disappears. And though concentrated nuclear waste is dangerous for a long time (500-1000 years), cadmium doesn't have a "half-life". It remains poisonous forever.

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Michael Keller on Sep 1, 2020

The claim of $55/MWh is complete nonsense, being easily double that number. The actual cost of energy must include production subsidies (around $25/mWh), debt repayment, and profit.

Furthermore, the unreliability of the green energy severely depresses the market value of the resource. That fact is conveniently ignored by "mandates" created by politicians firmly in the pocket of the green energy mafia.

Green energy can be useful. However, the resource should support the needs of consumers. The current policies in a number of states (e.g. California) assume the consumer exists to bankroll green energy.

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