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Nuclear Power Policy Activist, Independent

I am a passionate advocate for the environment and nuclear energy. With the threat of climate change, I’ve embarked on a mission to help overcome the fears of nuclear energy. I’ve been active in...

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"Nuclear energy already accounts for nearly 40% of electricity generated by the North Carolina-based utility company, and Good said the company sees no way to reach net-zero emissions without the power source weighing heavily in its energy mix.

'A little bit over 80% of the carbon-free generation and energy that we produce comes from nuclear,' said Good, in an interview at Yahoo Finance's All Markets Summit: The Path Forward. 'I want to keep that nuclear fleet operating as long as I possibly can because I don't have an alternative of a carbon-free resource that runs 95% of the time, which is what nuclear represents today.'

The U.S. already generates more nuclear power than any other country, with 94 reactors supplying electricity roughly 20% of the overall grid. But the number of reactors have remained largely stagnant, in part because of concerns about safety and cost overruns. Just one new nuclear plant has come online in the U.S., in the last 25 years."

Photo: Duke Energy's Catawba Nuclear Power Station, in South Carolina, generates 20 trillion watthours (TWh) of clean, reliable electricity each year.

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David Svarrer on Nov 2, 2021

"Nuclear energy already accounts for nearly 40% of electricity generated by the North Carolina-based utility company, and Good said the company sees no way to reach net-zero emissions without the power source weighing heavily in its energy mix.

 

Well, Bob, you know USA better than I, however, we both know that major parts of the entire USA do NOT have electricity 24/7, leave alone /365. Larger parts of USA does not even have anything which could be called a grid. 

 

The entire idea about large scale grids came from a desire of centralizing the energy production such that the profit also could be controlled by a few handful people.

 

When you now say that these people cannot see any way to zero emission without nuclear, then let me remind you, that Nuclear is far from Carbon free. If you use the ISO 14060 standard for evaluation of carbon emission, you know that you can take the construction cost - all of it - and transform it into CO2, directly, based on a formula going: 1 USD => 2.3 kilogram CO2. You also know that you thereby have the base-price of anything - whether it is a vehicle, a house, a nuclear reactor, a mobile phone - converted to CO2, that way. 

 

The result of this is, that the base price of nuclear power, which is USD 0.09 for the best of these stations (then you add profit on top), is based on the LCOE for 60 years of operations. Therefore, you can take the entire CAPEX - USD 7300 per kiloWatt - and convert it directly into CO2. Therefore, Nuclear power is not at all - far from - blatantly - not CO2 free. Let's be practical - the improvement of one of the most recent nuclear reactors, in Britain, was a 3 GigaWatt construction which so far has been costing 22.5 Billion GBP (was that in 2018?). Therefore the evironmental cost of this construction is equal to 22.5 * 1.36 * 2.3 = 70 Million tonnes of CO2. On top of that comes operations, which are at all not CO2 free. The cost of Uranium, subsequent storage of it for 500 years, with maintenance and all that - plus the maintenance of the entire nuclear power station for 800 years while it "cools off" - that is - the short term fission products wanes off in danger - costs a substantial amount of personnel, with vehicles etc. etc. - 

 

Bob, you have been infatuated with Nuclear power for quite some time, and unlike the general popular interest in this futile nuclear technological disaster it is, your infatuation seem not to wane. 

 

I am surprised to find you here, more than a year since we last discussed nuclear versus everything else. 

 

You are advocating that nuclear power is clean power. You could be sued for that statement, because since last we spoke here in Energy Central, many events have happened, which means that Nuclear Power is slowly but surely sliding down the ranking of preferred power sources.

 

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Bob Meinetz on Nov 2, 2021

"The entire idea about large scale grids came from a desire of centralizing the energy production such that the profit also could be controlled by a few handful people."

You have it exactly backwards, David. During the Great Depression (1929-1933), U.S. utilities had no interest in serving Americans in rural areas - it wasn't profitable enough. In exchange for their monopoly status, lhey were forced by President Franklin Delano Roosevelt and progressives in Congress to build transmission to farmers and others living in remote communities, so that all Americans would have access to this critical new resource. The American regulated utility became a model for the world.

Your prescription for would make clean electricity the exclusive domain of rich enclaves with microgrids, or private estates with solar panels, to the exclusion of everyone else. No, thanks - that mistake has already been made.

"You are advocating that nuclear power is clean power. You could be sued for that statement."

What would be the basis for such a lawsuit, David? Though it might constitute heresy in the Chuch of Renewables, there's no legal or logical framework that would lend credibility to such a claim. Your magical math, notwithstanding.

He added, "We do need to go forward with more nuclear power. I do think it should be part of our baseload, a big part. And that's why yes, of course, we're looking at Wylfa and lots of other projects."

Though I'm sure you Prime Minister's comments last month caused you some anxiety, they shouldn't. Nuclear energy will still be providing clean energy for UK residents when your wind turbines are rusting in the depths of the North Sea. That day can't come soon enough.

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