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Matt Chester on Sep 24, 2020

California has long led the transportation policy in the U.S., with them setting higher efficiency requirements and automakers complying with those rather than create certain models for CA and others allowable in the rest of the U.S. (aided by other states that adopt policies essentially saying 'whatever CA says, we'll do too). I wonder if this shift to banning ICE vehicles will follow the same trend

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Charley Rattan on Sep 24, 2020

Sounds like California is a trailblazer for the US

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Joe Deely on Sep 25, 2020

Its great to see the emphasis move away from Electric Power Industry. Transportation has way higher share of CO2 in CA and the gap has been widening in recent years.

That said... I am not sure that an Executive order banning new ICE sales after 2035 is the right way to go.

How about if CA state government worked with local government and agencies as well as in-state companies to replace current public and commercial vehicles with EVs?

Replace all local police/Sheriff/Highway patrol vehicles with EVs.  Replace all city/county/state fleet cars with EVs. Replace all public transit buses, shuttle buses, school buses with EVs. Work with Uber and Lyft to electrify their CA fleet. Repalce all garbage trucks, Utility trucks, and other "public trucks" with EVs. Work with Amazon, UPS and USPS to replace all in-state delivery vehicles with EVS.

Work with utilities, major corporations, highway dept, local government etc... to build out charging infastructure around CA.

Make sure that a TeraWatt (TWh) battery plant is built in CA.

Do all of the above and this EO from governor would have same worth as an EO 100 years ago outlawing horse and buggy.

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Joe Deely on Sep 25, 2020

One more thing... I think is being missed by a lot of people when it come to electrification of transportation - EBikes. 

The market for Ebikes is exploding.

Would be awesome if state of CA could work with local governments on bike infrastructure.


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Matt Chester on Sep 25, 2020

How about if CA state government worked with local government and agencies as well as in-state companies to replace current public and commercial vehicles with EVs?

This is already happening. From last November:

California, in an effort to continue reducing greenhouse gas emissions, is finished purchasing vehicles for its fleet that run solely on fossil fuels. Instead, beginning as of last Friday, the state will only opt for vehicles featuring some sort of electrification. 

California's Department of General Services said the change is immediate and only provides an exemption for certain public safety vehicles (police vehicles, fire trucks, etc.).  It's unclear if the policy will allow for vehicle running a 48-volt mild-hybrid system, or if California will look exclusively at hybrids, plug-in hybrids and battery-electric cars. The Department of General Services did not immediately respond.

Of course there is still plenty more work to do, including many of your points above. But I think my point is that I don't see this as Newsom signing the EO and calling it mission accomplished, but rather using the EO as another signal to the market that the progress in this regard needs to be ramped up and now. I wouldn't be surprised to see the coming weeks/months have announcements similar to the ones you're suggesting to aid them along. 

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